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Letter from Charles Darwin to H. W. Bates 3540

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Transcription: "Dear Bates, I have been talking in London with Sir C. Lyell and he told me facts showing that there almost certainly must have been a
Show moreTranscription: "Dear Bates, I have been talking in London with Sir C. Lyell and he told me facts showing that there almost certainly must have been a Glacial Miocene period! In N. Italy he has seen huge boulders embedded with Miocene shells! I saw at B. Museum the admirable mimetic case of Philippine Longicorn and Curculia— Really wonderful. The gentlemen at the Museum sucked in your doctrine in explanation as easily as mother's milk. I saw, also, there Mr [Baily] and he showed me the generative organs of closely allied Chrysomelæ on my word it is a very curious and unpleasant case, for he vows that these parts never vary. Dr. Günther, I find, is the candidate for place in B. Museum, and I apprehend no one would have a chance against him. I hear also with much surprise that a candidate would have to pass a civil-service examination. Good Night, I am tired. Yours sincerely, C. Darwin" Letter, signed by sender. Sent from Down House, near Beckenham, Kent, England.
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Letter from Charles Darwin to H. W. Bates 3773

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Transcription: "My dear Mr Bates, Many thanks for your very friendly note. I am not at all surprised at the time which your Book has taken. Everyone f
Show moreTranscription: "My dear Mr Bates, Many thanks for your very friendly note. I am not at all surprised at the time which your Book has taken. Everyone finds the same thing. It is dull work, but must be borne. People differ about being hurried by Proofs: I hate it, so shd recommend you not to be in too great a hurry. Murray would be an excellent adviser when you had better begin. After M.S. sent in, proofs seldom arrive for first fortnight, and then the flow is steady. I am most anxious that yours shd be a real good Book; so do not hurry over proofs—; yet I have known some very few men correct too much, and flatten their style. I find it good to correct in pencil and read aloud, and if it sounds well, not to plague more over it. But you write a capital style. I am very glad you have finished paper for Linn. Soc. When I go to London, I must enquire for the Part; for it is not sent till enquired for. You need not ask me to read it carefully; I shall be sure to do that.- not having been in London I have not seen a paper which you told me would appear in Annals. I am glad to hear about Mr Brown: I thought he was something remarkable! Mrs Darwin and my Boy are well; but my children are cause of never ending anxiety to me. This is a stupid note, but I am tired with a long day's work. With hearty good wishes for your work through the press— Dear Bates, Yours very sincerely, C. Darwin" Letter, signed by sender. Sent from Down House, near Beckenham, Kent, England.
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Letter from Charles Darwin to H. W. Bates 3827

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Transcription: "Dear Bates, I shd. think it was not necessary to get a written agreement. I have never had one from Murray. I suppose you have a lette
Show moreTranscription: "Dear Bates, I shd. think it was not necessary to get a written agreement. I have never had one from Murray. I suppose you have a letter with terms; if not, I shd. think you had better ask for one to prevent misunderstandings. I think Sir C. Lyell told me he had not any formal agreements. I am heartily glad to hear that your Book is progressing. Could you find some place, even foot-note (though these are in nine cases out of ten objectionable) where you could state, as fully as your materials permit, all the facts about similar varieties pairing, at a guess how many you caught, and how many now in your collection. I look at this fact as very important: if not in your book, put it somewhere else, or let me have cases. I entirely agree with you on enormous advantage of thoroughily studying one group. I shd. doubt Sir J. Herschel reading or reviewing nat. History; his address is "Collingwood Hawkhurst, Kent". I have already drawn Asa Gray's attention to your paper; but I fear it is out of his line, as he contributes only Bot. Reviews to N. American Journal. I will see whether a suggestion to one of Editors of Nat. Hist. R. will do any good; but as you are aware it is very unusual to review papers. I wish I had spare strength or time to review your paper; but in truth I have lost such months of time this whole summer that I must work on my own work when well enough. I really have no criticism to make; style seems to me very good and clear; but I much regret, that in title or opening passage that you did not blow loud trumpet about what you were going to show. Perhaps paper would have been better more divided into sections with Headings— Perhaps you might have given somewhere rather more of a summary on the process of segregation of varieties and not referred your readers to the descriptive part, excepting such readers as wanted minute detail. But these are trifles; I consider your paper as a most admirable production in every way. Whenever I come to variation under natural conditions (my head for months has been exclusively occupied with domestic varieties) I shall have to study and restudy your paper and no doubt shall then have to plague you with questions. I am heartily glad to hear that you are well. I have been compelled to write in a hurry, so excuse me, and believe me, Yours very sincerely, C. Darwin " Letter, signed by sender. Sent from Down House, near Beckenham, Kent, England.
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Letter from Charles Darwin to [H. W. Bates] 3911

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Transcription: "Dear Bates One line to say that I have just heard from Asa Gray, that if he had a copy of your paper he would endeavour to get Prof. H
Show moreTranscription: "Dear Bates One line to say that I have just heard from Asa Gray, that if he had a copy of your paper he would endeavour to get Prof. Haldeman to review in Sillimans Journal of Science. If you have a spare copy & think it worth chance, post by Book Post it to: Prof. Asa Gray Cambridge Massachusetts U. States I may as well tell you, as you will be sure to find out from resemblance to my letter that I have sent little Review of your Paper to N. Hist. Review. But I have reason to believe Editors will modify some part. If you send copy to Asa Gray, tell me; otherwise do not trouble yourself to write. By the way here is question sometime for you to answer, if you can, do Bees or Lepidoptera visit flowers of Melastomatads; if you shd. remember what genera of plants, please state; all a mere chance. whether you can answer, I know, I hope Book progresses. In Haste, Yours, C. Darwin" Letter, signed by sender. Sent from Down House, near Beckenham, Kent, England.
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Letter from Charles Darwin to [H. W. Bates] 4022

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Transcription: "Dear Bates I heard from Asa Gray a week ago, & must have the pleasure of sending you a copy of part of his letter. "The copy of Bates'
Show moreTranscription: "Dear Bates I heard from Asa Gray a week ago, & must have the pleasure of sending you a copy of part of his letter. "The copy of Bates's paper addressed to me by the author has come. I am by no means clear that I shall pass it on to Haldimann, certainly not just yet. I have run thro' it. It is fascinating he at least is a full believer in Nat. Selection & the illustrations he brings to your aid are the prettiest possible. I keep it in pickle along with Decandolle on oaks & some other matters to make the subject of the evening for our Scientific Society which meets with me a fortnight hence, when I hope to torment Agassiz delightfully, and then I will myself draw up an abstract of the interesting matter for Silliman, but it is too late for the March number." I have been rather extra unwell for the last ten days so write this by dictation. Don't trouble yourself to acknowledge this. I hope Book goes on well. Yours sincerely, C. Darwin About Agassiz is of course private." Letter, signed by sender. Sent from Down House, near Beckenham, Kent, England.
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Letter from Charles Darwin to [H. W. Bates] 4132

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Transcription: "Dear Bates You will have received before this the note which I addressed to Leicester, after finishing vol. I, & you will have receive
Show moreTranscription: "Dear Bates You will have received before this the note which I addressed to Leicester, after finishing vol. I, & you will have received copies of my little Review of your paper. By the way I heard yesterday from Asa Gray that his article on same is delayed till next number in Silliman's Journal. I have now finished vol. 2. & my opinion remains the same; that you have written a truly admirable work, with capital original remarks, first-rate descriptions, & the whole in a style which could not be improved. My family are now reading the book & admire it extremely; & as my wife remarks, it has so strong an air of truthfulness. I had a letter from a person the other day, unknown to you, full of praise of the book. I do hope it may get extensively heard of & circulated; but to a certain extent this, I think, always depends on chance. I suppose the clicking noise of surprise made by the Indian, is that which end of tongue applied to palate of mouth & suddenly withdrawn makes? I have not written since receiving your note of April 20th, in which you confide in me & tell me your prospects- I heartily wish they were better & especially more certain; but with your abilities & powers of writing it will be strange if you cannot add what little you require for your income. I am glad that you have got a retired & semi-rural situation. What a grand ending you give to your book contrasting civilisation & wild life! I quite regret that I have finished it: every evening it was a real treat to me to have my half hour in the grand Amazonian forest, & picture to myself your vivid descriptions. There are heaps of facts of value to me in a Nat. Hist. point of view- It is a great misfortune that you were prevented giving the discussion on species. But you will, I hope, be able to give your views & facts somewhere else. Once again I congratulate you & believe me, Yours very sincerely, C. Darwin We shall stay here till Wednesday & then move for a week to J. Wedgwood's Esqr Leith Hill Place Dorking Surrey We have come for change for my Boy & own health-sake" Letter, signed by sender. Sent from Down House, near Beckenham, Kent, England.
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Letter from Charles Darwin to [H. W. Bates] 5312

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Transcription: "Dear Bates Will you kindly do me a favour? Mr Blyth tells me that in 23d vol. of your R. G. Journal, there is a letter from Commander
Show moreTranscription: "Dear Bates Will you kindly do me a favour? Mr Blyth tells me that in 23d vol. of your R. G. Journal, there is a letter from Commander [R/B?]utakoft to Sir R. Murchison, in which the tameness of the deer on recently visited Isld. in Lake Aral is mentioned. Now if passage is quite short, will you have it copied for me, with man's name—proper volume, date, of vol. & page. If passage is long, can you send me Vol. by Post & it shall soon be returned, as I want it soon. Forgive me troubling you & believe me, Dear Bates, Yours very sincerely, Ch. Darwin" Letter, signed by sender to [Henry Walter Bates. Sent from Down House, near Beckenham, Kent, England.
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Letter from Charles Darwin to [H. W. Bates] 5895

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Darwin is in "utter confusion" on the differences on the division of certain insects between J. O. Westwood and H. W. Bates. Darwin requests Bates if
Show moreDarwin is in "utter confusion" on the differences on the division of certain insects between J. O. Westwood and H. W. Bates. Darwin requests Bates if he will homoligise certain insect families for him, using terms that would be generally understood. Transcription: "Feb 19th c1862 1868 Down. Bromley. Kent.S.C. My dear Bates I am in utter confusion; will you kindly clarify my mind - Westwood divides [] []([] []) with []=? []=? []=? Now you speak([]) of [], [] + []. - Now with your [] families [] + 18th which terms will be most generally understood, which I care more about than which are most strictly correct. Again, + more important for me, you say that(p.252) in the [] (I suppose of Westwood likewise) "the []-cases are symmetrical but have edges....... a distinct position is not set apart...for sound-producing"..... Now how can I reconcile this with Westwood (p.440) who [] drawing of the two wings which are not strictly symmetrical, + one of which is furnished "with a distinct position" for sound producing. So if the same species of crickets but both wings similar? I shd be grateful if you would kindly aid me as far as you can, + excuse me troubling you. yours vy sincerely C. Darwin Harris places [] [] , the "Katysis", in the [], is this the [] of Westwood? I suppose the "Field cricket" belongs to [] of all []. Your [] cannot belong to the [] of Westwood, but I suppose to his []" Letter, signed by sender. Sent from Down House, near Beckenham, Kent, England.
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Letter from Charles Darwin to [H. W. Bates] 6120

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Darwin has questions for Bates related to colour differences in the sexes of butterflies, particularly in relation to HWB's paper, "On variation in se
Show moreDarwin has questions for Bates related to colour differences in the sexes of butterflies, particularly in relation to HWB's paper, "On variation in sexes of Argynnis diana". Also mentions that his manuscript on Lepidoptera is longer than he intended and the information is four-fifths owed to H.W. Bates. Transcription: "April 15 c1862 1868 Down. Bromley. Kent.S.C. My dear Bates Will you looks at p.2 of enclosed note (which please return for it has been + is precious to me), at [] with two blue lines, + [] me in the name of the one Papilio, in which there is no difference in colour in the two sexes. Also should you call this one species a beautiful or [] one, either relating to [] other Butterflies as to the genus Papilio?- As I am writing I will ask another question: in your communication to W.H. Edwards in [] of Philadelphia, you speak of the females of [] Diana, Sagona, Paphia, Papilio [], as departing from the type of their family.- Now are there more [] than their males? The [] female of P. [] cannot be considered 10. Will [] as the above females []? I suppose you do not know whether in the case of their species the males or females appear most numerous. I hear from Walsh + Edwards that with P. [] the males are as 4 to 1 to the females. H. Doubleday has [] me up to good way of estimating number of sexes, [] by priced German [] + the results are striking: there with Butterflies out of 114 sp. + [], in which the sexes differ in [] (of causes there is no difference in very common species) the males in every case but one are cheapest; that according to the standard on an average, there ought to be for every 100 females 143 males.- So return to the female Butterflies, Wallace things in the [] that in all cases when the female is most beautiful she is mimetic. My [] has [] to greater length than I like, but has interested me much; + I owe 4/5 of my information to your great + [] kindness. yours very sincerely Ch. Darwin" Letter, signed by sender to [Henry Walter Bates]. Sent from Down House, near Beckenham, Kent, England.
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Letter from Charles Darwin to [H. W. Bates] 6195

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Darwin lists specimens (beetles) that he would like from Mr Janson, emphasizing that he always wants male and female. Darwin also extends an invitatio
Show moreDarwin lists specimens (beetles) that he would like from Mr Janson, emphasizing that he always wants male and female. Darwin also extends an invitation for a Sunday in early June. Transcription: "1867? May 21 My dear Bates Cordial Thanks.- You must not hurry yourself. You understand that I always want male + female. I shd like Tyrhaeus English species Copris (not English sp.) Geotrupes 2 sp. Onitis 4 or 5 or 6, other genera, some differing much, some differing little according to [] in systemal appearance I head in Chile Chiasognatus Grantu squeaking loudly so I wd gladly pay 1 [pound] for a [], if they can be bought: I brought home a dozen sp. but gave them all away. If the beetles do not come named, + they prove interesting, I dare say you'd put me up to getting them named. Will you pay Mr Janson for me? or ask him to send me a mem? any how I shd like his address so that I might apply for more specimens if the result proves interesting, which I don't expect. Should you be able to come down the early part of next month + spend the Sunday here; it wd give us very great pleasure to see you + it wd make it pleasant to Mr Jenner Weir who had been extraordinarily kind + whom I want to invite here. With many thanks yours very sincerely Charles Darwin" Letter, signed by sender to [Henry Walter Bates]. Sent from Down House, near Beckenham, Kent, England.
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